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		<title>Who Came Up With This &#8220;Wait Until They Hit Bottom&#8221; Bullshit&#8221;?</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2021 20:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>Into the Church Basement 💥💥💥Don&#8217;t tell anyone, but I went to a meeting last night. Again, keep it quiet, but I have issues. So I attend a certain type of meeting where we talk about how to best deal with said issues. So I walk into the church basement and I join a crowd of [&#8230;]</p>
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<h2 class="wp-block-heading"><strong> Into the Church Basement </strong></h2>



<p><br>💥💥💥Don&#8217;t tell anyone, but I went to a meeting last night. </p>



<p>Again, keep it quiet, but I have issues. </p>



<p>So I attend a certain type of meeting where we talk about how to best deal with said issues.</p>



<p>So I walk into the church basement and I join a crowd of people with<em><strong> &#8220;issues&#8221;</strong></em>. </p>



<p>The average age in the room was probably mid-50&#8217;s. </p>



<p>The average amount of time in recovery from<em><strong> &#8220;issues&#8221;</strong></em> was probably 20 plus years. </p>



<p>I&#8217;m sure there were a couple of newer and younger people in that room. But you had to pay close attention to find them. </p>



<p>But that is beside the point.</p>



<p>A fascinating story was shared.</p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>The Story</strong></h3>



<p>This dude with a bunch of time<em><strong> &#8220;dealing with issues&#8221;</strong></em> was talking about struggling back in the day. </p>



<p>Like in the 1980&#8217;s. </p>



<p>Apparently he had some trouble before it<em><strong> &#8220;finally stuck&#8221;.</strong></em></p>



<p>He said he was a chronic relapser (his term not mine), and <strong><em>&#8220;for years I was in and out and in and out&#8221;</em></strong>. </p>



<p>He talked about how bad it got. </p>



<p>As they say, jails and institutions and near death.</p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>Meetings</strong></h3>



<p>Then he shared that there was a group of men from the <strong><em>&#8220;meetings&#8221;</em></strong> who<em><strong> &#8220;kept coming to see me&#8221;</strong></em>. </p>



<p>They would meet him at hospitals, come to see him in jail, they met him for coffee. He said<em><strong> &#8220;they just kept showing up&#8221;</strong></em>. </p>



<p>He was emotional when talking about it. It clearly touched him even 30 years later.</p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>It Got Me Thinking</strong></h3>



<p>Who the hell came up with this <em><strong>&#8220;wait until they hit bottom&#8221; bullshit&#8221;? </strong></em></p>



<p>What kind of person tells another person <em><strong>&#8220;you just need more pain&#8221;</strong></em> and <em><strong>&#8220;come back when you want it&#8221;. </strong></em></p>



<p>How did this attitude become the prevailing attitude? </p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>IT DOESN&#8217;T REPRESENT THE FOUNDATIONAL SPIRIT OF RECOVERY</strong>.</h3>



<p>Back in the day Bill W and Dr. Bob would go out to hospitals looking for <em><strong>&#8220;alcoholics&#8221;</strong></em>. </p>



<p>They would literally walk up to the nursing station and say<strong><em> &#8220;you have any alcoholics we can help&#8221;</em></strong>. </p>



<p>They did not wait for people to show up.</p>



<p>I know we can&#8217;t reach everyone. But we can change our attitude. </p>



<p>&#8220;They need to hit bottom and come and get it&#8221; is a paradigm that needs to be transformed.</p>



<p>Think about it???  Rich.</p>



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<h4 class="wp-block-heading"><strong>ABOUT RICH JONES MA, MBA, LCAS, SAP<br>EVP &amp; EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, HERITAGE CARES</strong></h4>



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		<title>Confronting Denial &#8211; What Does That Mean?</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2018 23:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>CERTAIN TERMS &#8211; He&#8221;s in &#8220;Denial&#8221;  There are certain terms, many related to substance use disorders, that are universally recognized by people. These terms are part of pop-culture and even people outside the recovery echo chamber are aware of what they stand for. Terms like &#8220;tough love&#8221; and &#8220;hit bottom&#8221; are 2 examples. DENIAL Another [&#8230;]</p>
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<p>There are certain terms, many related to substance use disorders, that are universally recognized by people. </p>



<p>These terms are part of pop-culture and even people outside the recovery echo chamber are aware of what they stand for.</p>



<p> Terms like <strong><em>&#8220;tough love&#8221;</em></strong> and <strong><em>&#8220;hit bottom&#8221;</em></strong> are 2 examples. </p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><strong><em>DENIAL</em></strong></h3>



<p>Another term associated with substance use disorder is the term <em><strong>&#8220;denial&#8221;</strong></em>. </p>



<p>He is in denial. She needs help but she is in denial. </p>



<p>People throw the term around but I&#8217;m not sure they even know what the label means. Are you saying the person is not aware of the problem? </p>



<p>Because, technically, that is what it means. </p>



<p>From a psychological perspective, it is a technical term (developed by Freud; refined by his daughter Anne Freud). </p>



<p>The ego utilizes denial to <em><strong>&#8220;block reality&#8221;</strong></em> because the individual (technically the id) can not handle the reality. It shuts out evidence. </p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><strong><em>PSYCHOLOGY TODAY</em></strong></h3>



<p>Psychology Today puts it this way: </p>



<p><em><strong>&#8220;when you use denial, you simply refuse to accept the truth or reality of a fact or experience&#8221;.</strong></em></p>



<p>Perhaps this would apply to a person in the beginning stages of alcohol use disorder. </p>



<p>The socially acceptable and  slow progression  aspect of alcohol use would make it possible. Perhaps someone in the beginning stages of cannabis use disorder. </p>



<p>Again, there is a process and progression that may make denial more likely. </p>



<p>Maybe cocaine use disorder. Early on. Probably the beginning stages of prescription opioid misuse.</p>



<p>But I am of the opinion that &#8220;denial&#8221; is not the issue for many of the people who receive the label <em><strong>&#8220;in denial&#8221;</strong></em>. </p>



<p>Many who are <strong><em>&#8220;not getting help&#8221;</em></strong> are quite aware they have a problem.</p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><strong><em>THEIR IN DENIAL? &#8211;&nbsp;REALLY&nbsp;</em></strong></h3>



<p>Do you actually think a person addicted to heroin is in denial? </p>



<p>Do they &#8220;have no awareness&#8221; of the desperation of their situation?</p>



<p> Or methamphetamine or crack cocaine? Or the <strong><em>&#8220;alpha alcoholic&#8221;</em></strong> who is drinking himself or herself literally <em><strong>&#8220;to death&#8221;</strong></em>.</p>



<p>They are quite aware that they have <em><strong>&#8220;a problem and need help&#8221;</strong></em>.</p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><em><strong>IDENTIFY THE PROBLEM</strong></em></h3>



<p>We can not solve problems if don&#8217;t accurately identify the problem we are trying to solve. </p>



<p>The assumption of &#8220;denial&#8221; sets up a societal response that borders on cruel. The assumption of denial leads to the assumption that &#8220;hitting bottom&#8221; is the only way to &#8220;break through denial&#8221;.</p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><em><strong>NOT DENIAL</strong></em></h3>



<ul class="wp-block-list"><li>The issue is not denial. </li></ul>



<ul class="wp-block-list"><li>The issue is readiness to change. </li></ul>



<ul class="wp-block-list"><li>The issue is motivation to persevere. </li></ul>



<ul class="wp-block-list"><li>The issue is access to service. </li></ul>



<ul class="wp-block-list"><li>The issue is lack of alternatives and options for recovery. </li></ul>



<ul class="wp-block-list"><li>The issue is unaddressed underlying trauma. </li></ul>



<ul class="wp-block-list"><li>The issue is lack of <strong><em>&#8220;<a href="http://www.williamwhitepapers.com/pr/Recovery%20Capital%20Scale.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener" aria-label="The issue is lack of &quot;recovery capital&quot;…. and on and on. (opens in a new tab)">recovery capital</a>&#8220;</em></strong>…. and on and on.</li></ul>



<p>But its not denial.</p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><strong><em>LESS THAN 10%</em></strong></h3>



<p>As professionals our job is to find ways to solve those problems listed above. </p>



<p>Not to wait for the <strong><em>&#8220;breakthrough of denial&#8221;</em></strong>. </p>



<p>As a society our job is to put money into research for alternative solutions. We need go beyond the mere funding of a relatively narrow scope of practice. </p>



<p>A system that deals with <em><strong>less than 10%</strong></em> of the people with this particular healthcare issue.</p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><strong><em>RIOTS IN THE STREETS</em></strong></h3>



<p>If there was only one medicine for cancer, and it was rejected by 90% of those with a cancer diagnosis, what would our societal response be?</p>



<p> There would be riots in the streets, followed by a massive amount of money focusing on drug development and alternative therapies. The government would pour money into research. </p>



<p>The American Cancer Society&#8217;s coffers would overflow. Celebrities would demand action.</p>



<p>But where addiction is concerned, 90% reject the only medicine available, and we call them &#8220;treatment resistant&#8221;. </p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><strong><em>TREATMENT RESISTANT</em></strong></h3>



<p>We tell them, and their families, they are in denial. </p>



<p>Let them hit bottom. Let them experience pain and we can then breakthrough.</p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><strong><em>FOR THE RECORD</em></strong></h3>



<p>You can not work for, or volunteer, with FAVOR Greenville if you believe people need to hit bottom and break through.</p>



<p> We will work with you to help you gain an understanding of the change process. </p>



<p>We will be patient if you are making an effort toward true multiple pathway work. </p>



<p>But if you can&#8217;t get there we will politely and cordially part ways.</p>



<h3 class="wp-block-heading"><em><strong>CONNECTION</strong></em></h3>



<p>It is our core belief that people get better in the context of a loving and compassionate relationship. </p>



<p>And, although there are times when circumstances dictate hard boundaries, connection is the opposite of addiction. </p>



<p>Connection will bring more people into the recovery process than breaking through denial. </p>



<p>We are seeing this play out everyday.</p>

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